I don’t know much about inclusive design. However I believe that every city should be designed inclusively. Ah for example I think that a lot of the infrastructure that we have is not accessible for handicapped people, so it makes it really hard for people with disabilities to walk on the sidewalks, um. It’s a problem in Monterey for those who don’t have cars to find jobs in more remote areas, so I believe that the concept of inclusive design is beneficial for everyone.
Well it’s interesting for me coming from the perspective of someone coming from the perspective of a native born American, because we sort of take for granted how much things are tailor made for a naturally English speaking as your first native language person. Um all of the technology that comes out seems to be tailor made first for English and then for other languages. Which means that it’s very easy for us, (laughs) well I’m not going to say for us, for people to generally think you know making, taking the extra effort to make something inclusive is taking extra time, extra money, those people won’t even use these kinds of programs. And that’s such the wrong way to think about things because if you, any sort of technology that we make, any sort of design that we make, any one person who is left out from experiencing that, is one fewer customer, is one fewer person engaging, is one fewer person learning. So the more that we make these sorts of things expansive, and you know able to capture all sorts of different lived experiences, the more experiences not only do other people get to enjoy themselves, but the people who a lot of these programs are originally tailor made for, they get to learn about things outside of their bubble.
I think, they’re both important, inclusive and exclusive. Um, exclusive is not just the antonym of inclusive, but it’s actually um exclusive can mean more specific. So I think, exclusive design is also good. It just means more variety, and, of course you need more inclusive and generic design ah for something like, um everybody’s going to have, for, everyone at MIIS is going to have, then if you don’t want to discriminate, you just want to have one design for everybody, then inclusive design is important. But in terms of offering selections, different selections for many different types of people with many different backgrounds, I think creating more exclusive designs, I think that’s more helpful, so.
I think inclusive design means to include all the user, or as many users as possible, and the thing that I can think of that sort of qualifies as inclusive design is the phone, in general, I’m not saying an iPhone or a flip phone, but like, the um, existence of phone. And um, I think the essence would be to have a lot of options for different people, for example for like people who are blind, they cannot see, then they probably need some sort of patterns on the phone to touch, to understand which place to press. So I would say that you probably want to have features for, to cater all kinds of needs, which I think is pretty hard.
I think most of us are inclined to be in favor of inclusive design ,but the question is inclusive design of what? Inclusive for whom? Do we mean inclusive for all cultures? Do we mean inclusive for all disabilities? Do we mean inclusive for anything else in particular? And then, ah, what are we talking about designing? (unintelligible) …are we talking about designing courses? Or buildings? Or websites? Or something else? That’s, can be very broad. So, to really have an opinion on it, I’d need to, I’d want to discuss ok, what are we talking about being inclusive (unintelligible), for whom?
So, the more we let people in on inclusive thinking, and inclusive strategizing, the more experienced we get to share with the world, we get to take in ourselves, that maybe we wouldn’t have noticed before.